Excavations with Connie Chen

Hospicing Whiteness: Learning How to Die So We Can Live

Connie Chen Season 2 Episode 1

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Join Connie Chen and Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms for a rich conversation exploring hospice work as a powerful metaphor for helping whiteness face its own death and transformation. Together, we reflect on the sacred interconnectedness of birth and death, the vital role of embodiment in spiritual practice, and the possibility of resurrection that emerges when we embrace grief, ritual, and our shared humanity.

In this episode, we explore:

  • How the disembodiment of whiteness disconnects us from ourselves and how its death can open the door to a more authentic way of being
  • Choosing joy, depth, and meaningful impact over fame and performance
  • The complex relationship between sin and shame
  • Crying as part of the body’s natural, life-giving cycle
  • How post-Christian identity creates space for more expansive, honest conversations about faith
  • Why God cannot be contained by rigid categories. God is being itself

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